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If you are playing a hand that you've won for sure, no one can beat you, it can be either on the turn or the river, let's say quads, full house, whatever and YOU WILL NOT BE BEATEN, How much would you raise, something you think they could pay or just go all-in, emphasis in you are NOT going to lose the hand...
 

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It depends on a number of factors. Sometimes you think your opponent has a marginal hand and you dont want to scare him away so you make a smallish bet. SOmetimes you think your opponent has a big hand and he will call an all in.

There are also times when moving all in looks like a bluff. And there are times when you are playing against a moron who will call an all in with a marginal hand.

If you had a specific hand to share with us it would be easier to analyze the situation.
 

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If you have the nuts, it all comes down to what you think your opponent will do. If I know that the guy in front of me is the aggressive type who will try to win a pot no matter what, I'll try a check-raise... hopefully he'll put big money in and I'll force him all-in. If he's the prudent type, I need to figure out up to what amount I think he'll call.

In these situations, I like to induce a bluff by waiting until the very end of my time limit before placing a small bet. Less sophisticated players usually fall into the trap.
 

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I don't disagree with anything that the other posters said. There will be situations where a check raise will be best; some where betting out will be best. Your only object should be to maximize the win. If it isn't heads up you should consider whether you can find a way to keep everybody in. Sometimes overcalls will result in a bigger pot than pushing and only getting one caller.

As a rule, I don't check in a situation like this. I size a bet so that it's almost irresistable. If your opponents won't even call a moderate bet then you weren't getting anything out of them anyway. There is nothing worse than checking to set a trap and having to reveal your hand after everybody else checks.

Well, there is one thing that's worse: Betting your brains out thinking that you have the nuts only to be reminded that quads beat a full house. Or a straight flush beats an ace high flush. Feel free to substitue a nightmare of your own choosing.
 

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On a more serious note...

all of the above are true, ill add one more thing...

depends on how the table perceives YOU. Do you have a reputation? If so what is it? Is it your first time playing against these people? If so, how have you played so far? Aggressive? Conservative?

Usually when you play the opposite of how you are perceived is when you win big pots.

If they think you are aggressive and a bluffer, bet a large amount. If they know you only play with the nuts...you need to bet small because they'll know you have something. A call-me bet, an invitation. Obviously depending on what you think the other guy has.

You think the other guy has top pair with top kicker, and you have the nuts, and you have been ultra aggressive...prepare to get paid off. Bet big, but big enough where he can reraise you and he'll think you'll fold. Maybe even all-in.
 
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I would agree with boxslayer. I would overbet the pot making it look like I'm trying to bluff at it in the hope that my opponent believes that his/her hand is golden.

The thing about poker is that you need to get in your chips when you have the best hand and in situations of calling stations you have to punish them for calling with weaker hands!!!

Ex. Say the pot is at $200....and you bet on the river (with the nuts) for $100. You get called. Win an extra $100.

Ex #2...Same pot...you overbet the pot for $350. You get called and make an extra $350.

In comparing the betting situations you would need to get called 3.5 times in the first situation to make that money. Whereas in the second situation you only need to get called 1 out of 3.5 times to make the same amount. Plus there is the chance that you might get called more that once in the 3.5 times.

I am a novice but this is MY belief in betting the river with the nuts.
 

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I'm want the elaborate aswer, thinking how to trap this player or get'em confused...
 

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octor43 said:
I'm want the elaborate aswer, thinking how to trap this player or get'em confused...

With a flush or straight opportunity for the opponent - raise about 1.5 times the BB. Should give the opponent irresistable pot odds.

Without this - probably raise about 1/2 the BB - if you can not get called on this - you would not get called anyway..
 

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